I think he has no expertise in how you control migration, has not studied it, has not worked on it before. Is he wrong?ĬASTRO: Oh, he's absolutely wrong. And Governor Abbott argues that the barrier is there to try to prevent more deaths, to serve as a visual deterrent and get people to cross safely at a port of entry. Hundreds of people have died trying to cross it, going back way before Texas put this floating barrier in place. KELLY: Congressman, as you know, the Rio Grande has been one of the deadliest travel routes for migrants trying to come to the U.S. And, you know, the governor is doing this because of politics and because he wants to stoke his primary base. Why?ĬASTRO: I believe that's right because he knows that these devices are going to make it more likely that people will drown or that they will be forced to go to another part of the river that is deeper and tougher to swim and therefore may make it more likely for them to drown. You say that Governor Abbott has blood on his hands. I do want to note the Texas Department of Public Health says that that person may have drowned upstream and then drifted into the barrier. KELLY: Two bodies have been pulled from the Rio Grande in recent days. And he's treating these people like animals. And so, you know, there's a right way to treat people and a wrong way, and this is the wrong way. The buoys are barrel traps, have a chainsaw-type device in the middle of them. There was items of clothing that were caught up in the razor wire. It's - you know, the water comes above it, and so people can't see it and get caught up in it. And you look at this razor wire, and some of it is invisible. You got - we were right near what is razor wire. Those devices that Governor Greg Abbott has installed on the banks of the Rio Grande are types of drowning devices, really death traps. KELLY: Describe briefly what you saw at the border today.ĬASTRO: Well, it's what we suspected. Congressman, welcome to ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. He has just wrapped up a visit to the border town of Eagle Pass. He's leading a congressional delegation to see the situation firsthand. Well, Texas Democrat Joaquin Castro is there. Texas governor Republican Greg Abbott is standing firm. Justice Department has sued Texas, arguing that the barrier poses environmental and humanitarian concerns. It's a string of bright orange buoys about the length of three soccer fields with webbing underneath to make it hard to swim below. To the U.S.-Mexico border now and the floating border fence that Texas has installed in the Rio Grande to try to deter migrants from crossing.
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